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axelred13
10-31-2006, 07:50 PM
Low and behold, I just saw Michael J Fox on the show WITHOUT the shakes.

Funny how that works.

He's have a "bad" day when they shoot the commercials, but on Boston Legal, he's just fine.

Just shows how the left will step so low to exploit someone's disease to get elected.

Rush Limbaugh called it as he saw it, "he's either acting, or off his meds". I think what I saw on TV tonight proves his point.

wix19
10-31-2006, 08:06 PM
Ya know, people with Parkinson's don't constantly shake...

...and Rush Limbaugh is a blowhard hypocrite

jpharis53
10-31-2006, 08:48 PM
Yeah, Michael J. Fox is just faking it. Sort of like the Parkinson's patients my mom treated and had to bring me along for one day while I was sick from school. They acted the same way as Fox in the commercial... Probably trying to impress God.

axelred13
10-31-2006, 09:15 PM
I never said he was faking it.

I'm saying they purposly used him shaking to get sympathy.

LittleFan
10-31-2006, 09:38 PM
Is Rhona Mitra still on Boston Legal?

grrrrrrrrrowlllll....

Mike Henry Jr
10-31-2006, 09:40 PM
and i felt bad for that d-bag?


:lol:

Tyler King
10-31-2006, 09:47 PM
Michael J. Fox will campaign for anyone that supports Stem Cell research be it a Democrate or Republican.

axelred13
10-31-2006, 09:55 PM
He is running an ad here in WI endorsing our corrupt and ethicless governor, but what he fails to point out is that Doyle's opponent does support stem cell research, his opponent doesn't want the state to pay for embrionic stem cell research.

Just another little note. Scientists working with NASA have cloned a human kidney from adult stem cells and from what I have been hearing, all the advances being made in stem cell research, they virtually all are coming from adult stem cells.

Phathead
10-31-2006, 09:57 PM
My dog pees green

axelred13
10-31-2006, 10:01 PM
I'm trying to have a serious conversation on a big issue here...why are you trying to derail it?

If you have nothing to add to this conversation, please don't post.

Phathead
10-31-2006, 10:05 PM
Just tryin to lighten the mood a bit

Personally I think the guy has been nothing but honest in everything he has ever done, so I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt...... but can you honest say you'd blame him for trying to get his point across a bit more?

Tazz
10-31-2006, 10:09 PM
Ya know, people with Parkinson's don't constantly shake...

...and Rush Limbaugh is a blowhard hypocriteHe was shaking long enough to do a dozen or so different commercials with who knows how many takes each.



Just tryin to lighten the mood a bit

Personally I think the guy has been nothing but honest in everything he has ever done, so I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt...... but can you honest say you'd blame him for trying to get his point across a bit more?Playing the handicapped card is just as bad as playing the race card. You don't see disabled war vets flailing their stubs around, do you?

axelred13
10-31-2006, 10:12 PM
The problem I have with it is that he is "using" his disease when it is advatagous to him.

If, for his character, he can't show signs of Parkinson's, he doesn't.
If it helps him get his point across, he does show signs.

I don't think it was a bad day, I think the whole thing was planned...and THAT is my only problem with his ad.

And just so everyone knows, I am for stem cell research, but I am not for creating life so we can destroy it. And I am definately not for the state paying for embrionic stem cell research. State sponsored abortion if you ask me.

Phathead
10-31-2006, 10:12 PM
Ya know, people with Parkinson's don't constantly shake...

...and Rush Limbaugh is a blowhard hypocriteHe was shaking long enough to do a dozen or so different commercials with who knows how many takes each.



Just tryin to lighten the mood a bit

Personally I think the guy has been nothing but honest in everything he has ever done, so I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt...... but can you honest say you'd blame him for trying to get his point across a bit more?Playing the handicapped card is just as bad as playing the race card.

Quite true, but the race card was played until segregation was achived. This is merely, I'm assuming in his eyes, another battle such as that.

Fisha695
11-01-2006, 12:38 AM
Im pretty sure I heard somewhere that he admitted to not taking his meds for those comericals. Also he has admitied to not taking them in the past.

Is it wrong... Yes, but what about the people that cant afford the medicine..? They have to suffer with the shaking everyday. Was he wrong by not taking the meds to get symphathy..? Well that all depends on how you personally look at it. In the end is he doing it for a good cause? YES. Sometimes you have to do something wrong to achive something right.

axelred13
11-01-2006, 01:40 PM
Sometimes you have to do something wrong to achive something right.


I highly disagree with that statement. I wonder if he got paid for doing those commercials....

RobbyFan
11-01-2006, 03:12 PM
Sometimes you have to do something wrong to achive something right.

Hypocrites deserve no love.

speed29
11-01-2006, 03:17 PM
Sometimes you have to do something wrong to achive something right.

Hypocrites deserve no love.

IMO, doing something wrong to achieve something right completely defeats the purpose of trying to achieve something right in the first place.

WCPainter
11-01-2006, 03:23 PM
They film around the shakes. If you watch closely you can see him shake, not alot, but just enough to see it.

BTW: Boston Legal OWNS! :roxs:

R_Gephart
11-01-2006, 03:25 PM
IMO, doing something wrong to achieve something right completely defeats the purpose of trying to achieve something right in the first place.



EXACTLY!!

daveH
11-01-2006, 03:53 PM
He's a piece of trash, and he deserves nothing in any form of support. If I wasn't in such a good mood I''d say he deserves to be sick for exploiting himself like that.

mlsmartin#6fan
11-01-2006, 04:00 PM
I read an article about Michael J Fox a couple years ago in Reader's Digest, and it said that he can stop his shaking by squeezing his thumb (for a few seconds) and that he was going to have a procedure done where there is constant pressure on his thumb to stop his shaking. I read this a few years ago, so I don't know how it is doing so far and such.

jjkusaf
11-01-2006, 04:19 PM
This is nothing more than an assumption. No need in bashing the guy. Sure, he is trying to gain more support for research into a cure for Parkinson's disease. Who can blame the guy?

Also, depending on the medications MJF is taking, some actually increase dyskinesias. I heard that he was on his medications which resulted in the involuntarily movements.

Tyler King
11-01-2006, 04:21 PM
Maybe the point of the commercial was to show what Parkinson's disease is like when not on medication?

daveH
11-01-2006, 04:30 PM
All it did was show what a piece of trash MJF is.

axelred13
11-01-2006, 04:37 PM
Maybe the point of the commercial was to show what Parkinson's disease is like when not on medication?

No, the point of the ad was to vote for the democrats.

They showed Parkinson's in its true form to get sympathy.

Fisha695
11-01-2006, 04:51 PM
Maybe the point of the commercial was to show what Parkinson's disease is like when not on medication?

No, the point of the ad was to vote for the democrats.

They showed Parkinson's in its true form to get sympathy.

Yes because the Democrats support StemCell research to try and find a cure for the disease.

Tazz
11-01-2006, 05:08 PM
Maybe the point of the commercial was to show what Parkinson's disease is like when not on medication?

No, the point of the ad was to vote for the democrats.

They showed Parkinson's in its true form to get sympathy.

Yes because the Democrats support StemCell research to try and find a cure for the disease."The" Rebublicans do, too.

Tyler King
11-01-2006, 05:16 PM
Would it be ok if the ad was for a Republican? He's campaigned for Republicans before so he shows no preference.

Ryan Spaulding
11-01-2006, 05:23 PM
I think the problem is, people seem to be either 100% for all stem cell research or 100% against all stem cell research.

My religious and moral beliefs tell me to be against embryonic stem cell research, but adult stem cell research I am all for. I believe, and someone PLEASE correct me if I am wrong, but adult stem cells are actually easier to come by.

Fisha695
11-01-2006, 05:30 PM
Im for it. As long as you dont need to kill anybody for it. If someone wants to have an abortion then let them, and if possible and they agree then use the stem cells from that. If a baby is stillborn, if possible collect stemcells from that.

There is nothing wrong with trying to find a cure for many deseases.

directandy
11-01-2006, 05:55 PM
Im for it. As long as you dont need to kill anybody for it. If someone wants to have an abortion then let them, and if possible and they agree then use the stem cells from that. If a baby is stillborn, if possible collect stemcells from that.

There is nothing wrong with trying to find a cure for many deseases.

:tup:

axelred13
11-01-2006, 05:55 PM
He is running an ad here in WI endorsing our corrupt and ethicless governor, but what he fails to point out is that Doyle's opponent does support stem cell research, his opponent doesn't want the state to pay for embrionic stem cell research.

Just another little note. Scientists working with NASA have cloned a human kidney from adult stem cells and from what I have been hearing, all the advances being made in stem cell research, they virtually all are coming from adult stem cells.

KBartelt
11-01-2006, 09:04 PM
Eh, Wisconsin's screwed this election. :hi:

axelred13
11-01-2006, 09:26 PM
Eh, Wisconsin's screwed this election. :hi:

Don't be so sure...from the polls I have seen, Doyle isn't even carrying Milwuakee county. If he can't win Milwaukee, he will not win.

Keep your fingers crossed.

RobbyFan
11-01-2006, 09:35 PM
If a baby is stillborn, if possible collect stemcells from that.

No one finds that slightly disturbeing?

axelred13
11-01-2006, 09:42 PM
From my limited knowledge of stem cells, that would be considered "adult" stem cells.

jjkusaf
11-02-2006, 04:40 AM
Maybe the point of the commercial was to show what Parkinson's disease is like when not on medication?

No, the point of the ad was to vote for the democrats.

They showed Parkinson's in its true form to get sympathy.

Maybe no one cared to read my post.

Some Parkinson medications actually increase dyskinesias (involuntary movement such as rocking motion).

I know this because I do PET imaging scans on patients with Parkinson's. We ask that they consult with their doctor to stop taking Carbidopa, Levodopa or Dopamine and MAO-B inhibitors to decrease the chance of motion during the procedure.

From what MJF said is that he took his medications and it worked too hard...which is a side effect of majority of the medications.

Before you all criticize...maybe you should become more educated on Parkinson's and the medications.

axelred13
11-02-2006, 05:15 AM
I read your post JJ, but I think you are missing our point.

Its a double standard. Lets just say that he was shaking more than normal due to the side effect, would he have gone on Boston Legal? Of course not.

I see it quite possibe that MJF knew these particular meds would give him this side effect and he took those meds on purpose to amplify the effect.