PAINT SCHEME FORUM GUIDELINES

[Phathead]

Please follow the general format of the posts I have started.

Chat in a thread should correspond to that threads topic.

I have created an index for easy searching of a particular car when you wish to add a scheme.

You may start a thread for a car that does not exist. I will have the thread placed in my name and add it to the index.

Hopefully this will be a lot more organized than in years past and while alleviate some of the issues from the giant threads we have used previously.

[zbackster44]

:roxs: :roxs: :tup: Idea Phat. head down here and ill buy ya some :beer: .

[Chris Owens]

Jory, your the man. :beer:

[Phathead]

:roxs: :roxs: :tup: Idea Phat. head down here and ill buy ya some :beer: .

huh, I stayed in your town four months ago for a Microbiology conference lol

lets just see how organized this stays lol

[Miles_Wilson]

I must say Phat, this new system is awesome thus far!

[DaleJrFan8]

Thank you Jory :tup: :tup:

[Paul8]

Just a clarification...

What's the general consensus on Formula 1? Since their presentations are meant to show off both the livery AND the actual car itself, should it be put in here or in the Racing Discussion?

[Phathead]

Just a clarification...

What's the general consensus on Formula 1? Since their presentations are meant to show off both the livery AND the actual car itself, should it be put in here or in the Racing Discussion?

It can go in here. If you notice there is a Random Paint Schemes thread which currently houses shots of the new N'wide COT. I have no problem with F1 cars/liveries being posted here in their respected threads.

[skippy88]

would there be any way to possibly isolate just the cup schemes and the nationwide schemes? instead of having them all together? my only complaint with this new way is that it's a little difficult to just find the one thread amongst 2 pages of threads... it's a bit run together.

i like the idea so far, its much better i think than before. just needs one or two more steps to help keep it organized. once we start getting all the truck teams and nationwide teams, we're gonna have 3-4 pages of threads and it (to me) just seems like it's a bit jumbled together... just my 2 cents.

i do applaud you for throwing this together in just a matter of days really it seems.

[Miles_Wilson]

Skippy, if you look at the thread at the top of this forum you'll see "Paint Scheme Index". That should be all your looking for.

[skippy88]

no, no... i get that part of it... but below with all the other threads. each new time you log in it depicts which ones have new posting in them at the top since you've last seen, but if you're going to post a pic for example, having to search through 4-5 pages of threads all titled essentially the same, makes it a bit difficult. and i can see it becoming increasingly difficult the more pages that get added... i dunno. was just a thought to further help organize the system he has going. it is new, i just thought he could use some constructive criticism as far as what some like/dont like about it. all towards improvements in the future.

[Miles_Wilson]

I am not the father of this thing by any means, but as I stated, I believe that is the point of the "Paint Scheme Index" page which will be updated regularly by Father Phat lol

[skippy88]

i apologize. i did not realize that the list above that IS organized by numbered order, was linking directly to the threads itself. i just assumed he was transferring the images to that list separately... :oops:

[Phathead]

i apologize. i did not realize that the list above that IS organized by numbered order, was linking directly to the threads itself. i just assumed he was transferring the images to that list separately... :oops:

I was gonna say... that's why I created the index lol

I figured out that problem once I created the first 30 threads or so and I was having trouble myself finding them.

[Frankie59]

It's kinda annoying when there are like 30 threads with new replies to click on, instead of the one thread in the past. Oh well lol.

[Phathead]

It's kinda annoying when there are like 30 threads with new replies to click on, instead of the one thread in the past. Oh well lol.

I agree, that is the main draw back of this system, but I'm not sure of an easier way around it.

[S_Gibson]

Great job Phat :tup: This seems much more organized and a better layout.

[skippy88]

It's kinda annoying when there are like 30 threads with new replies to click on, instead of the one thread in the past. Oh well lol.

that just means you're not visiting the site often enough... :beer:

[bassbudmenards]

It will only happen at the beginning of the year, when there's such a massive influx of new schemes. Throughout the year, it won't be such a huge rush.

[skippy88]

less we forget, the unfortunate part about all of it is it's not always a new image posted in the thread... it's 90% commentary. which we're all guilty of. there just needs to be some way of isolating a feature that you can ONLY upload a photo in the thread, or be able to minimize or "hide" commentary in a thread. just show the posts with a file attachment...

but thats just getting to technical...

[gr8eske1]

I kind of thought the reasoning behind this was so that the 2010 paint scheme thread was for us to post and discuss the schemes and the individual threads were mostly for posting the pictures in so we could find the pictures easier and not have to navigate through all the commentary??

None the less, this new layout is lots better, good job phat :bigthumb:

[Phathead]

less we forget, the unfortunate part about all of it is it's not always a new image posted in the thread... it's 90% commentary. which we're all guilty of. there just needs to be some way of isolating a feature that you can ONLY upload a photo in the thread, or be able to minimize or "hide" commentary in a thread. just show the posts with a file attachment...

but thats just getting to technical...

Really, you're gonna have to flip through maybe 5 pages on a particular car to find an image. This is compared to flipping through 50+ pages with TONS of other images.

Personally I like the comments, it leads to interesting discussions. I can think of a better system, but I, nor would any one else, have the time to consistently maintain it. Again, you guys may think its simple to do something like this, but it is very very time consuming.


I kind of thought the reasoning behind this was so that the 2010 paint scheme thread was for us to post and discuss the schemes and the individual threads were mostly for posting the pictures in so we could find the pictures easier and not have to navigate through all the commentary??

None the less, this new layout is lots better, good job phat :bigthumb:

The main problem with this, and I know people will say 'that won't happen', is that eventually people will start linking to the threads and/or the pics. So then you'd have threads full of tons of links which would be just as bad.

[OverKill0421]

Can the cars be separated into series too?

[Miles_Wilson]

Can the cars be separated into series too?

god... here we go again... Please read THIS thread, starting at the top... You'll find it has already been done...

[OverKill0421]

Can the cars be separated into series too?

god... here we go again... Please read THIS thread, starting at the top... You'll find it has already been done...

I'm talking about SUBFOURMS in the TOPICS not the index.

[Phathead]

Can the cars be separated into series too?

god... here we go again... Please read THIS thread, starting at the top... You'll find it has already been done...

I'm talking about SUBFOURMS in the TOPICS not the index.

I honestly do not see the need with the index at this moment

[Stevie Richards]

Phat made the paint scheme board easy to access, if you ask for anything more, you're just lazy.

HEY PHAT CAN WE GET A SEPERATE SUBFORUM FOR EVERY DIFFERENT PAINT SCHEME?

[Phathead]

I realize that this system is far from perfect, but its the best we can do with what we got.

I spent several ours devising and organizing this forum. All I have gotten since then is "Why didn't you do this" or "Why can't we have it like that"

Personally, I don't give a rats ass. I had this changed because I thought it would benefit the people coming here in being able to find what they were looking for. Instead all I hear is bitching and moaning.

If you want to give constructive criticism, that's fine. But when you start nitpicking how do things, I'll stop listening. I have been here for 7 years, I have been on various NASCAR forums for 12 years, I have a general idea on decent ways to devise them. Most often this is keeping them as simple and clear as possible.

That was my main thinking when figuring out how to do this.

I took time off of my first vacation in two years to stop in and see how things were going and have felt the need to write this. I hope some of you are intensely proud of it. You're damn lucky I don't have this whole forum deleted just to spite the few of you. I'm generally pretty easy going and understanding, but I've had enough of putting in hours into this place only to have others walk in and think they know better.

Y'all have a nice rest of the week, I'm off to the bar.

[S_Gibson]

Ignore the naysayers Phat you won't please everyone and roll with what you feel like. One of the first things Reid and I realized is most people come to a forum feeling they have the right to be disrespectful, unruly, and ungrateful for the time and effort others puts into something for their benefit. Don't let it bother you. Most people will be ungrateful, it is certainly widespread in the upbringing of most kids now a day. Combine that with the fact people hide behind a keyboard and act their worst.

I think you did a great job and it seems pretty straightforward to me........ although I do think you need a sub-forum for each number with a sub-forum for each series under that. And you need to change the fonts in the title to match the real cars so it will stand out better. Don't forget to include the name of every owner, driver and team member in each thread and a resume for each. I just think you need to look it up so we don't have to. BTW I have some more stuff I need you to look up on Google for me.

[Matito29]

I dont really see how it could be much clearer. There is a thread for every car. If there comes to be a new team and theres no thread for it, make one. Other than that, go find it and post in it. Not that difficult.

Thank you, Phat. This is much, much better than having it all in one thread. :tup:

[Stevie Richards]

Ignore the naysayers Phat you won't please everyone and roll with what you feel like. One of the first things Reid and I realized is most people come to a forum feeling they have the right to be disrespectful, unruly, and ungrateful for the time and effort others puts into something for their benefit. Don't let it bother you. Most people will be ungrateful, it is certainly widespread in the upbringing of most kids now a day. Combine that with the fact people hide behind a keyboard and act their worst.

I think you did a great job and it seems pretty straightforward to me........ although I do think you need a sub-forum for each number with a sub-forum for each series under that. And you need to change the fonts in the title to match the real cars so it will stand out better. Don't forget to include the name of every owner, driver and team member in each thread and a resume for each. I just think you need to look it up so we don't have to. BTW I have some more stuff I need you to look up on Google for me.

Well said. And the 2nd paragraph made me :lol:

[Chris Owens]

Phat, can you make it a rule if you quote a picture your banned for like a month? It gets old having to scroll through a topic because 10 different people quoted 3 pictures of a car.

[Phathead]

Phat, can you make it a rule if you quote a picture your banned for like a month? It gets old having to scroll through a topic because 10 different people quoted 3 pictures of a car.

I can suggest it, but it'll be hard to enfoce. I'll try to police it myself and see how that goes

[OverKill0421]

Can the cars be separated into series too?

god... here we go again... Please read THIS thread, starting at the top... You'll find it has already been done...

I honestly do not see the need with the index at this moment

I am only making a suggestion. Its up to you to follow thru or leave it alone.

1. I dont see a need with the index
2. If the paint scheme forum was broken into each series and then each car#/driver would have their own thread.

The fourm outline would look like this:

I. Racing Schemes
A. NASCAR Sprint Cup Series
1. Car #1
2. Car #2
B. NASCAR Nationwide Series
1. Car #1
2. Car #4

Etc.....

Then the index would not need to be updated.

Sorry if I made anyone upset, I am only trying to help.

[S_Gibson]

Hahahahaha! Hahahahaha! :bwa:

Perhaps each number should be in a separate forum also? Our you could have a separate forum for the driver under each forum for each number under each forum for each series under the forum for the schemes. Just in case there are driver changes for the car that year which would result in changing the scheme for the new driver name.

[OverKill0421]

:eek1: what are you talking about

I ment driver as in NHRA drivers or even monster truck drivers. They dont have numbers :nana:

Separate the series, Put the cars, or drivers if that series doesnt use numbers, that go in the series in the corresponding series.

[NitroFish]

Perhaps each number should be in a separate forum also?

we already have separate threads for each car from each division, which is about the same thing.

[Phathead]

I am only making a suggestion. Its up to you to follow thru or leave it alone.

1. I dont see a need with the index
2. If the paint scheme forum was broken into each series and then each car#/driver would have their own thread.

The fourm outline would look like this:

I. Racing Schemes
A. NASCAR Sprint Cup Series
1. Car #1
2. Car #2
B. NASCAR Nationwide Series
1. Car #1
2. Car #4

Etc.....

Then the index would not need to be updated.

Sorry if I made anyone upset, I am only trying to help.

But what you don't understand is that forums don't work that way. I'd have to create a separate webpage with direct links to the respective forums. We're at 138 threads in about two weeks. It's simply not practical.

And the index only has to be updated once which is what would happen with the way you're suggesting. Except I would have to do a helluva lot more work to organize each thread and the webpage rather than just putting a link in the index like now.

Unless you're suggesting the addition of 200+ new forums to the site which is just a downright ridiculous idea.

Would it be prettier? Sure. But it would be a helluva lot more work.

No offense, but I'm not so stupid that I hadn't thought of that before. It's just not practical.

[OverKill0421]

Sorry I didnt know it would produce that much more work for you.

I kept replying because some people were making fun of what I said and making me look like a :cen: moron.

I thought they had no idea of what I was trying to explain, so I tried to clear it up a bit.

[S_Gibson]

Perhaps each number should be in a separate forum also?

we already have separate threads for each car from each division, which is about the same thing.

Yeah, but that is no fun as it doesn't create enough work for Phat. I think we need more forums and sub forums with more threads in each.

Y'all act like Phat has a life, we know he doesn't, so quit letting him off the hook by allowing him to get by with it as simple as it is. We need to make it even more complex so it and the PTRW contest will almost be a full time job :)

[Stevie Richards]

[quote="S_Gibson":9fdlic5f]Perhaps each number should be in a separate forum also?

we already have separate threads for each car from each division, which is about the same thing.

Yeah, but that is no fun as it doesn't create enough work for Phat. I think we need more forums and sub forums with more threads in each.

Y'all act like Phat has a life, we know he doesn't, so quit letting him off the hook by allowing him to get by with it as simple as it is. We need to make it even more complex so it and the PTRW contest will almost be a full time job :)[/quote:9fdlic5f]

Ooh I have an idea! How about for PTRW this year, each race has to use a different points system?

[penskefan]

Don't give Brian France any ideas.

[Phathead]

Y'all act like Phat has a life, we know he doesn't, so quit letting him off the hook by allowing him to get by with it as simple as it is. We need to make it even more complex so it and the PTRW contest will almost be a full time job :)

Hehe that is so true Gib. I've been home exactly 12 hours in the last two weeks :(

I will have that index fully updated come Sunday when I finally get back

[Phathead]

Index is fully updated from the last two weeks since I was gone. I have to tweak a few things here and there with some threads, but the bulk of it should be good to go.

Lemme know if there are any dead or wrong links

[Phathead]

Well Chris Owens threw up on the forum today, so I should have all of the links updated. If I'm missing any of them, please let me know.

And after Daytona, I will compress the index thread a bit so you don't have to scroll 3 miles to find something.

[Chris Owens]

Well Chris Owens threw up on the forum today


:oops:

[nascarjohn]

Sorry if this has been asked, but lets say i wanna post a scheme for the Hendrick #5 Nationwide car. Would i put that with the #5 Gearhart Car from Daytona?

[Chris Owens]

Sorry if this has been asked, but lets say i wanna post a scheme for the Hendrick #5 Nationwide car. Would i put that with the #5 Gearhart Car from Daytona?

I don't think Hendrick is running the #5 this year but I could be wrong though.

[Phathead]

Sorry if this has been asked, but lets say i wanna post a scheme for the Hendrick #5 Nationwide car. Would i put that with the #5 Gearhart Car from Daytona?

Everything is sorted by car number, not team