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07-14-2003, 02:30 AM
Just looking for some advice with racing... Every time I race online I am by far the slowest on the track. Just wondering if anyone can give me some things that I might be able to work on to get faster.
Whatever track we are at I always ride inside the cockpit looking at the lines of the faster drivers, watch how they get into corners, etc... But for some reason can never duplicate it.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated... It's no fun running last by your self all the time!
07-14-2003, 03:19 AM
Well my guess would be is that your just taking it to easy, and not accually driving it hard enough into the turns or your just not picking the gas up soon enough...
Have you ever tried just going out on a track and just as fast as you possably can?
Try running an offline test sesion with damage off, and just go as hard as you can, and then when you go overboad you will atleast know were the fine line between slow, and fast is at...
I would do this cuz it seems like this is what alot of drivers that I personaly know do to get faster and it seems to work really good...
I dont use the aids and im not telling you to but maybe you need to try them offline so you can better get the feal of how the car is reacting, like when you should be letting of the gas when, and how much you should turn the steering wheel
I think that the small things like this is what your missing :-?
Now im not trying to tell you to go out there with aids on all the time just do it till ya get a better feal for how the car acts...
Try that and see if it helps any if not then maybe we can get together and have a test, and ill try and teach you some things that should make you better if you will keep at it...
07-14-2003, 05:22 AM
First question Jeff:
Are you using the driving aids? If so, turn them off and learn to drive it without them... It will take some getting used to but you will be much faster... also your car will react to you and not to the computer does....
Also.. .how do you have your pedals set up? Do you have your brake and gas pedal set up independantly? In other words are they set up on the same axis? If they are on the same axis, then when you hit the brakes it pretty much make your unable to use any gas... You need to set them up so you can brake and still be able to keep your RPM's up....
Lastly, do you use the driving line? If not, use it... It is a good aid to get used to each track and learn the line.... You may not always use the exact line but it will give you good reference points for braking etc...
Try those things and see if your times don't go up... PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE..
07-14-2003, 06:44 AM
see what good info you get from us jeff :D
two different sides on how to learn to get faster, yeah if your using aids(i took it you werent) turn them off cuz thats gonna slow you down alot
you might wanna go with Tommy on this one lol his advice is probably alittle bit more helpfull then mine was :-?
07-14-2003, 07:08 AM
Nah... I didn't even read yours FB until I had written mine.. LMAO... We told him exact opposite things huh??? :lol:
Jeff, if you like the aids and feel more comfortable with em.. leave em on... I used to run with em back before Nascar 2002... I turned em off and started running without them and I started winning races... and running with the leaders more.
It will take some getting used to but it will be worth it...
FB is a great driver and much faster than I am so I think you can't go wrong either way!!
07-14-2003, 08:48 AM
I do use most of the driving aids... Didn't know we weren't supposed to be using them. :oops: I will turn them off and go run a offline practice session to see what I come up with.
At tracks I'm not familiar with (Which is all but Tally and Tona) I have the best line on for two reasons... First so I know where to go, but more importantly to see where I shouldn't be when someone is passing me. :moon:
I turn laps everyday somewhere either offline or online. I wil continue to practice everyday as long as it takes for me to get faster.
Thanks for all the advice, you guys :roxs:
07-14-2003, 09:08 AM
Jeff.. I suggest turning off the driving aids (but leave on the line)... That will help you get your timing and location down for entry and exit from corners...
Turn the others off in options... then be patient and give it a try.. You will wreck a bunch before you get the feel of it... but it will help you get better.
07-14-2003, 09:56 AM
also use the automatic clutch, if you don't have a clutch pedal...
07-14-2003, 10:04 AM
Well I ran a almost 100 laps at Chicago and my fastest lap was 29.892 which is the fastest lap I have run. I averaged in the mid 30's which is also a little faster.
I turned off everything except the clutch (thanks chevy38fan)
I guess I will keep practicing off line until I can get faster!
When you guys drive how much do you actually turn the wheel? I think some of my problem might be that I don't turn the wheel enough... Just curious!
Thanks for the advice! :hi:
08-08-2003, 03:23 AM
its really kinda hard to explain Jeff......you just gotta go by the feal of the car and the way its driving......dont turn the wheel to much to one side tho or you will just starting sliding the front and it feals like your hitting oil.....
08-08-2003, 06:16 AM
I barely turn the wheel, if it at all sometimes.. heck sometimes I have to countersteer it.. it all depends on your setup, really. Some require more user input than others..
08-08-2003, 06:21 AM
Thats true, depending on the setup and the track... you gotta turn right to and work the throttle to get the car to turn left......
Like FB said, you just gotta drive enough that you can feel the car and can predict it's movements.. It takes a long time and you will NEVER master it...
Unless your name is JC..... :lol:
08-08-2003, 04:09 PM
Adjust your steering linearity until you are more comfortable with it. I think you will find everybody uses something different probably, but it will make a difference in turning and being smooth through the corners.
08-08-2003, 06:01 PM
yup....hey Jeff if your using the Microsoft Sidewinder FF then make your steering linearity to between 70-80 if your finding that its to sensitive then take it down to say about 30-50
08-08-2003, 07:23 PM
I use the same wheel and I like it at 100%. It feels more real to me!
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